Common Timeless Jewel Mistakes and Solutions

Comprehensive troubleshooting guide for timeless jewel issues. Identify problems quickly and apply proven solutions.

Quick Diagnosis Guide

Before diving into specific problems, here's a quick checklist:

1. Verify the seed number - Is it the correct seed you intended to buy?
2. Check socket position - Different positions give different results
3. Confirm jewel type - Each type has unique mechanics
4. Review affected notables - Are the right notables in radius?

Problem 1: Wrong Modifiers Appearing

Symptoms

• The notables show different modifiers than expected
• Calculator results don't match in-game effects

Solutions

Check the conqueror name: The modifier pool depends on which conqueror is listed on the jewel:

• Lethal Pride: Different Karui generals give different keystones
• Militant Faith: Each Templar leader provides unique keystone effects
• Brutal Restraint: Maraketh leaders determine the keystone conversion

Verify socket position: The same seed in different sockets affects different notables. Double-check you're using the correct socket.

Problem 2: Jewel Not Affecting Expected Notables

Symptoms

• Some notables near the socket remain unchanged
• Expected passives aren't being transformed

Solutions

Understand radius mechanics: Timeless jewels have a specific radius that determines which passives are affected:

• Only notables within the radius are transformed
• Small passives may also receive additions (depending on jewel type)
• Keystones within radius can be converted

Check the passive tree:

• Ensure the notable is actually allocated
• Verify it's within the jewel's radius using our calculator

Problem 3: Inconsistent Performance

Symptoms

• Build feels weaker than expected
• DPS calculations don't match real damage

Solutions

Account for all mechanics:

1. Glorious Vanity transforms notables entirely - old bonuses are replaced, not added
2. Elegant Hubris replaces notables with generic modifiers - check what you're losing
3. Lethal Pride adds to existing notables - the original bonuses remain

Verify in Path of Building:

• Import your character
• Check that all jewel effects are properly applied
• Compare calculated DPS with actual performance

Problem 4: Expensive Mistakes When Trading

Symptoms

• Bought the wrong jewel
• Paid too much for a common seed
• Received a different jewel than expected

Solutions

Before buying:

1. Triple-check the seed number - Read it carefully in the trade window
2. Verify the conqueror - Make sure the name matches what you need
3. Check current prices - Use price checking tools to avoid overpaying
4. Use our calculator - Confirm the seed gives the modifiers you want

Problem 5: Calculator Results Don't Match Game

Symptoms

• Our calculator shows different results than in-game
• Modifiers don't appear where expected

Solutions

Ensure correct settings:

1. Check that you've selected the right jewel type
2. Verify the socket position matches your in-game placement
3. Confirm the seed number is entered correctly
4. Make sure you're looking at the same league/patch version

Report discrepancies: If results genuinely don't match, please report the issue - the game occasionally has updates that affect timeless jewel mechanics.

Problem 6: Build Not Working as Planned

Symptoms

• Copied a build but jewel effects differ
• Guide's jewel recommendations don't work

Solutions

Check build context:

• League version - Some seeds may have changed between patches
• Exact socket - Builds may assume specific tree pathing
• Other gear - Jewel effectiveness may depend on other items

Adapt to your situation: Use our calculator to find alternative seeds that work better for your specific passive tree setup.

Prevention Checklist

Avoid future problems with this checklist:

• [ ] Use calculator before any purchase
• [ ] Verify seed AND conqueror name
• [ ] Check socket position matches your build
• [ ] Understand which notables will be affected
• [ ] Consider opportunity cost of replaced bonuses
• [ ] Test in Path of Building first

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• Understanding Timeless Jewels - Learn the fundamentals
• 10 Common Mistakes - Avoid costly errors
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