How Timeless Jewel Seeds Work

Beginner Level7 minute readUpdated December 2024

Understanding how seeds work is crucial for mastering timeless jewels. Learn how these numbers determine which passive transformations you'll get.

What is a Seed?

Every timeless jewel has a unique seed number that appears in its flavor text. This number acts as the "DNA" of the jewel, determining exactly which passive skills will be transformed and what they'll become.

Example Seed Numbers

10400
Lethal Pride seed - Known for excellent strength bonuses in Templar area
18371
Brutal Restraint seed - Popular for spell suppression builds
Seed Range
Timeless jewel seeds typically range from 500 to 40,000, giving each jewel unique transformation patterns.

How Seeds Determine Transformations

The seed number works with the game's random number generator (RNG) to determine:

1. Which passives are transformed

Not every passive in the radius is guaranteed to change. The seed determines which specific passives will be affected.

2. What they transform into

The seed selects from a pool of possible transformations specific to each jewel type.

3. The magnitude of bonuses

Some transformations have variable numbers (like +8-12 to Strength). The seed determines the exact values.

Seed Testing Strategies

Finding the perfect seed for your build requires systematic testing:

Step-by-Step Seed Testing

  1. Identify your target socket position and jewel type
  2. Use our calculator to test popular seed ranges (1000-5000, 15000-20000)
  3. Look for seeds that transform key passives in your build area
  4. Test multiple seeds to find the best combination of transformations
  5. Verify results match your actual in-game jewel
Testing Tips
Some seeds are more popular because they consistently provide good transformations. However, don't ignore less common seeds—they might be perfect for your specific build.

Popular Seed Ranges

While any seed can theoretically work, certain ranges tend to produce more desirable results:

Lethal Pride

High Strength:6000-15000
Intimidate:10000-20000
Double Damage:15000-25000

Brutal Restraint

Wind Dancer:12000-18000
Spell Suppression:18000-22000
Onslaught:8000-12000